A few days ago, Megan Doodle (a nurse) wrote a post on Facebook to parents who do not vaccinate their kids — for the sake of flu season and all. In it, she claimed that parents should have the right to believe what they believe, but that if they don’t vaccinate, they shouldn’t be allowed to take their kids to the hospital when they are sick; that it’s pure conspiracy to think that pharmaceutical companies are out for profit; and that it’s insanity to think that the scientific medical community has been duped … because let’s face it … this never happens.
I try to avoid nonsense like this, but I feel it important to correct the misconceptions so that we don’t have people walking around using their “science” degrees as excuses to misinform the masses. Allow me to “lovingly” address this post piece by piece, so that you have an educated response to share with your friends:
#1. “Parents who don’t want to vaccinate should have the freedom to do so, but if they think ‘Big Pharma’ is just trying to profit or poison us all … they should not be allowed to go to a doctor or hospital when they are sick for treatment.”
Let’s talk facts for a minute, shall we? They say that there are no such thing as absolutes, but Big Pharma is “absolutely” a for-profit entity.
[A for-profit entity is a] business or other organization whose primary goal is making money (a profit), as opposed to a nonprofit organization which focuses a goal such as helping the community and is concerned with money only as much as necessary to keep the organization operating.
There’s no question that making money is the end goal of the pharmaceutical companies who make our beloved vaccines. Money is their bottom line, their bread and butter, and what allows them to ignore the millions (Yes, I said millions.) of children injured by their products.
It really doesn’t take a degree to figure this out. You can view their goals, objectives, the stock market, and tax information online. You can review the endless list of lawsuits filed on behalf of people injured in the pursuit of making a buck — lawsuits for things like failure to disclose safety data, fraud, poor manufacturing practices, and wrongful death (to name a few). You can see how many billions of dollars have been paid out to parents of vaccine injured children, and you can simply look at their long and clouded history of price gouging drugs, marketing deception, and habit of buying physicians and politicians.
As ProPublica reports, over the last few years alone pharmaceutical companies have paid the Justice Dept. more than $13 billion to settle allegations of illegal marketing practices. [They’ve paid doctors, universities, and politicians even more to promote their agendas.]
Hello, take a look around at the opioid crisis? WHO do you think started that? Magical unicorns and immigrants from Mexico? No … it was the pharmaceutical companies and the “scientific medical community” that dumped these pills into our communities. “That’s right.”
In the late 90’s, Big Pharma reassured the medical community that patients would not become addicted to their opioids … and they were wrong. Now we have more than 115 people dying each day, we spend $78 billion dollars each year on what has become a full-blown epidemic, and the FDA just approved a painkiller 1,000 times more potent than morphine. And hey, remember that one time Big Pharma price hiked the price EpiPens by 500% and HIV medications by 5,000%? I’m sure they did that for the good of the people who needed these medications, right?
Wake up. Vaccines are currently a 36 billion dollar industry. By the year 2020, vaccines are projected to be a $50 BILLION dollar industry. Vaccines are the highest profit margin drug on the market. So yes, they are out to make a profit at the expense of the people, and if you can’t see that, then you’ve become blinded by your credentials and the propaganda has clouded your thinking.
#2. Nobody has the right (medical degree or not) to dictate who is and is not qualified to receive medical care. If you think otherwise, then you should immediately step down from your profession.
Ms. Doodle stated in her post that if someone wasn’t going to vaccinate their child, then they shouldn’t be able to get EpiPens for their child’s anaphylaxis (probably caused by vaccines), inhalers for asthma (probably caused by vaccines), chemo drugs for cancer, or medicine and procedures brought on by a heart attack.
First of all, this type of thinking is incredibly dangerous. What if a doctor refused to operate on a heart because the man got blocked arteries from his awful diet? What if diabetes medications were withheld from people who didn’t put down the donuts first? What if treatment was refused because a patient decided to utilize a different drug than what was recommended? According to the United States Constitution which you ascribe to because you choose to live in this country, you have no right to tell another person what to do with their body or another parent what to do with their children.
Secondly, the data shows that unvaccinated children are healthier and have a lower incidence of chronic disease than vaccinated children. They require less medical care, prescription medications, and antibiotics, have lower incidences of ear infections, seizures, autism, neurodevelopment disorders, eczema, and ADHD, and have more robust immune systems.
Modern medicine certainly has its place and nobody is arguing that, but you’re talking about treating a condition that already exists verses assaulting a perfectly good immune system with something that could compromise it. There’s a huge difference.
Science must be allowed to evolve and be challenged … by anyone. If you believe otherwise, then you should go back to the days where the Earth was believed to be flat, where Galileo was considered a heretic, and physicians thought it was pure quackery that they needed to wash their hands. If you work in the medical profession, it is not your job to judge a patient based on your own subjective beliefs. It is your job to provide medical care. Period.
#3. Parents who don’t vaccinate hate modern medicine.
It is flat-out false that parents who don’t vaccinate have an aversion to modern medicine. Allow me to (once again) educate you: Parents who don’t vaccinate opt out because they only believe in sound medicine that has been proven to be safe or effective. Vaccines have not been proven to be safe and effective and fail to meet the standards for evidenced-based medicine. It’s really THAT simple. If you think I’m wrong, take a look at the vaccine package inserts and tell me what type of “placebo” is used in their “studies.” If you think vaccines are effective, please provide the name of one vaccine that provides lifetime immunity. (Hint: There isn’t one.)
There’s a reason why it’s the most educated part of our population not vaccinating their children, and it’s not because we’re stupid. It’s because we have the ability to critically think, independently consider all aspects of an issue, and we want medicine to be better.
#4. “Medical professionals would never administer anything to anyone, especially a child, that would intentionally harm them.”
Are you kidding me? Medical professionals administer harmful substances to children all the time. There are 7,213,599 children on psychiatric medications in this country. There are 3,655,472 children on ADHD medications, 2,100,315 children on anti depressants, 1,194,805 children on antipsychotics, 1,445,509 children on anti-anxiety meds, and 1 in 4 children have a chronic disease … on the rise in large part due to the vaccinations by which you hail.
I for one, don’t believe that most physicians are outright malicious, but it is shown that these drugs are being prescribed because psychiatrists are too busy to do therapy, because doctors are too pressed by government regulations, because they’re bought, and because they simply are not adequately trained to recognize the effects and harms of what they’re prescribing and/or injecting.
If you don’t believe that vaccines cause harm, then you were not adequately trained on being able to recognize a vaccine adverse reaction, and that … is a problem.
Speaking of awful “scientific medical recommendations,” remember when people had their hemorrhoids burned by hot irons, their blood let by leaches, their conditions treated with heavy metals, parts of their brains removed, took up smoking for good health, consumed copious amounts of sugar because of poor nutrition advice, had deformed babies due to x-rays and thalidomide, were damaged by Vioxx, got polio from the vaccines, got cancer from hormone therapy, got Autism from the DPT vaccine, and suffered and/or died at the hands of Accutane, Darvocet, Quaalude, Raplon, Selacryn, Zelmid, and numerous other medications that were approved and then recalled? All of these medications and or treatments were once recommended by the scientific and or medical communities.
We could talk at length about medical advancements and achievements, but we could also talk for years about the failures of the scientific medical community and the fact that MEDICAL ERRORS (i.e. errors made by the medical professionals we are not supposed to question) are the third leading cause of death in this country. Do you know what happens when people don’t question? History repeats itself.
#5. “I take even more offense to anyone that would imply that a college educated professional, like myself, is incapable of ‘doing the research,’” Doodle wrote.
Based on the logic above (or lack thereof), I should be offended that I, a college educated professional with a doctorate level degree am supposedly incapable of doing my own research, and even more offended that I, as a parent, would not do what is in the absolute best interests of my child.
Simply put, the decision of whether or not to vaccinate has nothing to do with you or anyone else. It has to do with us and our children, and just because you have a college degree doesn’t usurp our right to have an informed opinion either, or to question your “research.” In fact, many of us have college degrees of our own and/or understand the lack of education and/or biased manner in which medical professionals are taught about vaccines.
Many of these parents you’re offended by are medical doctors and nurses, just like you. Many of these parents have worked for pharmaceutical companies, have been educated by first-hand experience with court cases and politics, and have vaccine-injured children. What’s offensive, is the view that one can’t hold an opinion because it offends yours, and that you think someone should be deprived of all forms of medical care because they opt out of a procedure that you wouldn’t opt out of. If you cannot withstand the scrutiny of being questioned and you cannot respect the choices of your patients, then you should not be in your profession.
#6. “Children who are too young to be vaccinated and the immunocompromised are put at risk by the unvaccinated.”
Vaccine 101: This is a perfect example of why we should never just take someone’s “research” for it. Infants are at risk of getting diseases they were once protected from because mothers aren’t acquiring these mild temporary illnesses as children and thus, have no protective immunity to pass on to their infants for their first year of life. All you have to do is have a basic understanding of immunity and to take a little time to go back through the data to see which age sectors of the population had measles pre-vaccine, and which sectors of the population are experiencing outbreaks now.
In fact, the adult population is also more at risk of getting these illnesses because their temporary junk immunity they got (if any) from their vaccines wears off, subjecting them to a potentially more severe form of the illness as an adult.
Secondly, the immunocompromised can be vaccinated and those who can’t, cannot be around recently vaccinated children either because they shed their viruses, vaccinated children who get sick as a result of their vaccines, all adults (because let’s face it, most of us no longer have immunity), and any child whose vaccine didn’t work (which is impossible to know). There’s a reason why children who have been recently vaccinated with the chicken pox vaccine aren’t allowed in the cancer ward, ya know?
#7. You should (not) vaccinate to protect someone else.
This may sound a bit harsh, but my responsibility as a mother is first and foremost to my child. I will not make them a scapegoat for a medical procedure that could kill them or leave them seriously disabled, and I would never expect you to do that for mine. What mother would? I will also not vaccinate my child with a vaccine that could shed onto an immunocompromised person and seriously harm them, nor will I shoot up my child’s body with carcinogens, aborted baby DNA, tissues, and cells, hazardous wastes, or heavy metals. It’s just not going to happen.
You should only vaccinate if you feel that vaccines are safe or effective, you believe that is what is best for your child, and you’ve done your own research in coming to that conclusion. You should not vaccinate because you’re manipulated into doing it for the benefit of someone else, when it doesn’t even benefit them anyway. You are the one as the parent who has to spend the rest of your life taking care of your child should they become vaccine-injured … not the nurse or physician pressuring you into making that decision, and certainly not the pharmaceutical company.
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Dear parents, I urge you not to check your brains at the door because someone else did their research for you. I urge you to continue to educate yourself, inform others, stand for what you believe in, and make the decision that you feel is best for you and your family. I also urge you to avoid any medical practice, practitioner, or hospital that doesn’t value the opinions and beliefs you hold. We simply shouldn’t tolerate anything less.
(Signed a mother … who holds a law degree, is a naturopath, and hails from a family of nurses, doctors, and chiropractors.)
As always, amazing article. So, so good. Thankyou for all your work.
Thanks for reading Cherie. 🙂
Thank you. Very well written. Our family’s health has improved dramatically since we stopped vaccinating a few years ago ❤ Just wish it wouldn’t have taken me so long to question what was being injected into our children.
Thank you Megan for your brilliantly composed response!
I am indeed strengthened and encouraged in the fight!
Thanks Geoff. I’m glad you liked it. 🙂
Love this!! I was pro vaccine all the way (was brainwashed in nursing school and never questioned it), until, being the perfect first time mom, i gave my twins all their vaccines on time and watched my son spiral into autism at 15 months (after the dtap) and my daughter suffer from debilitating diarrhea (which my dr. said was normal for toddlers???). Diet changes cured my daughter, but 16 years later I have a beautiful, but autistic son who will live with us forever. I’m firmly pro vaccine CHOICE (meaning let me make my own decisions and you make yours, but don’t tell me I’m an idiot) and did not vaccinate my third child!!
Oh ffs. Talk about twisting what she has said. She does NOT say big pharma are not in it for the money, she questions why an anti vaxxer would deride big pharma over vaccines but then turn around and use other products they make.
She also does not say anti vaxxers are not entitled to other products and medications, she asks why they would want them when they say big pharma are so bad.
Also you state that antivaxxers just want to be able to use safe medications. There are NO completely safe medications. Not one. Everything has a side effect or risk associated with it. Meg also states this.
I have chosen to be anonymous because I don’t want the trolls
Correction. You have chosen to be anonymous because you don’t want to be contradicted, don’t want facts given, and you want to stay ignorant.
That’s totally cool and your right. But what you don’t have any right to do is revel in your ignorance AND demand that I do anything you like to my body or my child’s body.
Hello Megan…
I love every bit of knowledge you express…you are awesome!! I look forward to reading everything you post..As a mother of an autistic son…I am against allowing anyone in the medical field to shoot my children up with anymore toxic poison “vaccines” however I am desperate as to how to get around having another son of mine (14yr.old) injected with the “mandated 7th grade vaccine” he has been disenrolled from school twice now due to my refusing to comply…he is currently disenrolled as we speak and his Dr.appt was today to get the mandated vaccine in order in order for him to be allowed back in school (which I am Totally against doing)and we missed it!! He has missed a lil less than half of the school year last year and currently almost going on 3 weeks this year…Andv they said he CANNOT come back until he is updated on his vacccines..We live in California and I just feel so ANGRY & In need of some kind of advice…
Thank you
Gina
You may be able to get a medical exemption for your son because he has a sibling who is autistic. You will need to find a doctor who is genuinely knowledgeable about vaccine “risk factors.” There are people who can help you with all this — get on Facebook and Google and search for terms like “vaccine choice” and “CA vaccine medical exemption.” Good luck!
Thank you for taking the time to write an amazing article!
Well put Megan!! This boils my blood !! I get so upset about this because people make you feel like an idiot when you say you don’t vaccinate and then I have to ramble off a bunch of stats and they shut up .. cause they don’t know!!
Also I always get the response “they wouldn’t give something to your kid if it wasn’t safe”” Omg people are really blinded!!
Also where are you a naturopath at? I need one!!
The risk was 100% for my child – I did now send my next 3 children to the slaughter. Thank you for speaking up – http://www.naturematters.info
❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🤯 I cant believe she wrote that article. Thank you for your response. I always want to memorize your words, thanks megan!!! ❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏
You’re welcome Bridget. I’m glad you liked it!
I was wondering if there are any nurses out there who are faced with giving vaccinations and how they deal with this? I’m a nursing student in Australia.
Here in the US, at least, once nursing school is over and you get your license, you can legally refused to give vaccines. Now, policy where you work will vary as to whether you must, but it’s not a legal requirement.
I am a nurse practitioner. I order flu shots and pneumonia vaccines for my adult and geriatric patients as required by the institutions I work for but my patients have the right to refuse. I’m ok with that. It’s all about pro choice. I never push them or really encourage them.
With that being said I could never work pediatrics.
Secondly, the data shows that unvaccinated children are healthier and have a lower incidence of chronic disease than vaccinated children. They require less medical care, prescription medications, and antibiotics, have lower incidences of ear infections, seizures, autism, neurodevelopment disorders, eczema, and ADHD, and have more robust immune systems.
^Could the anitvaxxers please explain why dangerous childhood diseases are coming back?
There’s no question that making money is the end goal of the pharmaceutical companies who make our beloved vaccines. Money is their bottom line, their bread and butter, and what allows them to ignore the millions (Yes, I said millions.) of children injured by their products.
^ you realize that there’s about 50 million children under the age of 12 in the US. If vaccines were causing this much damage, there would be a lot more evidence.
Hi Art, Could you please explain which* “dangerous” childhood diseases are coming back? Millions might be an understatement if we consider the entire history of the vaccination program and take into account how many children worldwide have been injured. There’s quite a bit of evidence. 😉
https://www.cdc.gov/measles/cases-outbreaks.html
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Mumps, which can sterility in adult males.
Whooping cough.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2015/04/14/anti-vax-mom-changes-her-tune-when-all-7-of-her-children-come-down-with-whooping-cough/?utm_term=.78ddb144e6da
Polio is endemic in Afghanistan and Pakistan. It’s just a matter of time before this disease makes it over here. Polio had nothing to do with water and cleanliness. In the 50’s, homes were actually CLEANER than they are now, housewives took care of the family and nutrition was better. Appliances did their job properly. Please talk to those who lived through the 50’s, the constant smell of bleach in the schools. Parents were terrified of Polio.
You are missing a lot of information. You need to read “Disolving Illusions” by Dr Suzanne Humphries
Anitvaxxers are only safe because the majority of the population are vaccinated. Reading this post made me uncomfortable. As a lawyer you definitely know how to take certain arguments out of context and twist them, i.e. Meggy wrote:”If they think that “Big pharma” is just trying to turn a profit or poison us all…”. She never wrote that BP doesn’t want to make money. She wrote that people who think that way (just make a profit and poison people) should avoid BP entirely and not just pick and choose as they like.
They never left, so how can they be “coming” back? And which “dangerous” diseases are we talking about? Measles? A mild childhood illness in well nourished children. Vitamin A prevents any issues from it. It was a literal joke in the 60s and only had a vaccine for the same reason chicken pox does – they thought they could get rid of it and keep parents from having to take time off work. Rubella? Only dangerous to the unborn, the best way to protect them is for their mothers to get it as children. Mumps? Another super mild illness in children, with a miniscule chance of causing sterility if an adult male gets it. Also evidence it’s protective against ovarian cancer. Pertussis? Deadly to children under 6 months, but the vaccine does not prevent transmission (that means spreading it), it only reduces symptoms, making the vaccinated the biggest risk to infants because they don’t realise that little cough they have is actually pertussis. Also, occurs with 7 year peak cycles and the vaccine didn’t make any difference to that.
Art, you must look way past only the extreme injuries documented from vaccines and check out the correlation between vaccines and long term health issues such as autoimmunity (which will come out over time and thus not be documented as related to vaccine). There has been much research by 30+ years Immunologist Yehuda Shoenfeld and many others relating autoimmunity and chronic inflammation and disease to the “over tweaking” of the immune system. On top of that the harmful toxicity of the ingredients and their effect on the body over time. Many people don’t know, and frankly don’t want to believe that the safety of these vaccines and the current schedule may not be in our best interest.
It amazes me how ignorant many people are as to the dangers or vaccines. I’ve personally noticed that a lot of medical professionals are completely brainwashed into thinking that vaccines are safe.
My personal thoughts on the subject:
Freedom to choose is the only thing that really matters. Nobody on either side should ever be forced into anything against their will.
Our creator gives us the Freedom to make our own choices in life, warning us that there are consequences for every choice that we make, and after we die, judgment awaits.
So for those who believe vaccines are a good thing, I personally feel sorry for them, because they are ignorant. However, As long as they (stay in their lane) they can continue to harm themselves if it’s what they desire to do.
The real issue here is these ignorant people want to force those of us who won’t vaccinate into having it done against our will.
Medical personnel where I live are forced to where masks all year long while on shift, if they refuse their yearly fly-shot. Schools are trying to prevent unvacced kids from being allowed to enroll in school. Reminds me of many other Liberal agendas in this Country today.
The LBGT community comes to mind. They want to force their perversions onto the rest of the public, even though it goes against God’s Word.
The whole world can cater to these insane issues all they want. I’ll stick with Jesus and what His Word commands us to do.
Can you please stick to the subject of vaccinations. Your comments are highly offensive and are based on your own moral choices. This is about something completely unrelated.
Thank you for saying that, Katrina. Interestingly, according to an investigative journalism piece by Glenn Greenwald in the Intercept a couple of years ago, one tactic employed by paid trolls trying to keep a group marginalized is to say something off-topic and highly offensive in an online conversation, along with expressing support for the marginalized viewpoint. There’s no way of course to know whether William Brown falls into this category, but just thought I’d point that out..
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This comment detracts from the article. The fact of your bigotry being allowed to remain up on this site is a big reason I am refraining from sharing this article. I am an athiest, Liberal, vaccine-injured as a baby and now a vaccine declining parent who strongly supports the LGBQT community. Just leaving that here to show the reality that vaccine questioners have many different political, religious and social beliefs.
Thank you, Meghan! I completely inhaled every single word that you wrote. YOU. ARE AMAZING.
Sincerely, Casey.
Thanks Casey! I’m glad you liked it. 🙂
Amen to you & your beautifully written response! I’ve come to same conclusions and draw strength from your to continue the good fight🙏
Thank you Karen. Be strengthened and encouraged in the fight. <3
Well said
Well said, thank you.
Yes I am sure all those family practice docs are just making hand over fist taking all those kick backs from big pharma on their vaccination rates. Why then is there such a shortage of family practice doctors if their salaries are padded by the insurance companies? Dermatology, surgery, anesthesiology all make a lot more money and you know they are not administrating vaccines like family pratice and pediatrics. Pharma has been fined and it is ILLEGAL for doctors to take monetary donations. I’m not saying some don’t but it is against the law. Big Pharma isn’t great. Yes it’s a profit company. I would like to know what company would give away anything for free?
Preach it sister!!!
Thank you SO much for this, as I have been thinking about that nurse’s post ever since I saw it, trying to conjure up the best words as a reply but you have eloquently done so. I felt her initial post was very arrogant and even ignorant. Thank goodness an educated reply is now circulating. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
You nailed it, Megan.
Right on point.
Cindy, MSN, RN
Thank you for this! You are so right on. Science (or lack therof) should never be used by anyone to manipulate or coerce as Doodle has been and does.
Ha ha ha as if Big Pharma would ever want to restrict someone from purchasing an epi-pen or an asthma inhaler. That’s a good one! It would wreck their whole business model which is keeping children as life long medical consumers.
Restrict? No. Price gouge? That is a fact.
They can charge whatever they want because parents like myself are required to have them for their children, or themselves. I have to pay $600 for a single set of epi-pens. I need at least 3 sets, so $1800 for this life saving device. I can’t not pay it. You know much it costs to make an epi-pen? Around $30. That’s price gouging.
On point as usual, Megan. Allopathic medicine is a hazard to its devotees, as well. Interns and residents still work ungodly hours while in training. Staff nurses in most hospitals work 12 hour shifts. Who else employs sleep deprivation and fatigue to control their followers? Cults. I know a retired RN who said that most doctors she knew simply didn’t have time to keep up with the medical literature outside of required seminars, most of which are sponsored by pharma. Dear Doodle probably has no idea how literally mind- controlled she is. Nor does she want to know. Career, money, and lifestyle hugely inhibit many in healthcare from seeing the truth.
Interesting points, Sue. Thank you for this thought-provoking post!